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Strategy Name
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Trades
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C2Star
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Sub Fee
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All time
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Max DD
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Return
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Action |
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Steady MAKE money![]()
Manager:
RayHsieh
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+10.87%
+$25,800
+56.49%
+$95,000
+82.25%
+$120,000
+61.9%
+$160,000
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41
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.30
:1
W:L Ratio
$260,000
Suggested Capital
0.95
Sharpe ratio
58.46%
% Profitable
1+ year
Strategy age
721.98
2.736
Average Leverage
6.5 days
Trade Speed
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(54.8%)
Maximum drawdown
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+61.9%
Annual Returnsince Sep 20, 2023 |
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Futures Bridge![]()
Manager:
BridgeSwiss
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$200/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(1.08%)
($1,910)
+12.08%
+$18,900
+9.70%
+$15,400
+45.2%
+$75,500
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2
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.24
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
1.64
Sharpe ratio
43.56%
% Profitable
1 year
Strategy age
524.07
3.306
Average Leverage
29.9 hours
Trade Speed
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(21.2%)
Maximum drawdown
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+45.2%
Annual Returnsince Apr 05, 2024 |
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AI TQQQ only swing![]()
Manager:
QuantTiger
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$120/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+0.85%
+$430
+19.72%
+$8,350
+64.59%
+$19,700
+45.4%
+$43,700
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26
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.39
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.94
Sharpe ratio
50.32%
% Profitable
4 years
Strategy age
1800.09
2.754
Average Leverage
3.9 days
Trade Speed
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(51.0%)
Maximum drawdown
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+45.4%
Annual Returnsince Oct 07, 2020 |
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BOOST 1![]()
Manager:
AdiPlaut
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$0/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(1.51%)
($480)
+18.07%
+$4,830
+21.30%
+$5,550
+27.4%
+$7,350
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9
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.85
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.96
Sharpe ratio
51.43%
% Profitable
1 year
Strategy age
393.94
0.849
Average Leverage
42.4 days
Trade Speed
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(27.7%)
Maximum drawdown
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+27.4%
Annual Returnsince Aug 13, 2024 |
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Sage Volatility Margin![]()
Manager:
Sage_Volatility
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$90/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+3.71%
+$4,630
+14.56%
+$16,400
+21.93%
+$23,200
+25.8%
+$120,000
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15
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.52
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
0.80
Sharpe ratio
31.34%
% Profitable
9 years
Strategy age
3402.80
1.188
Average Leverage
12.7 days
Trade Speed
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(34.9%)
Maximum drawdown
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+25.8%
Annual Returnsince May 18, 2016 |
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Cryptoverse![]()
Manager:
Shay_Cohen
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$30/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(2.41%)
($840)
+24.52%
+$6,650
+51.70%
+$11,500
+42.0%
+$23,900
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
5.56
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
0.83
Sharpe ratio
48.55%
% Profitable
3 years
Strategy age
1186.29
0.693
Average Leverage
2.5 months
Trade Speed
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(49.8%)
Maximum drawdown
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+42.0%
Annual Returnsince Jun 13, 2022 |
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EDGE AGENTIC LLM![]()
Manager:
EdgebridgeCapital
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$39/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(1.36%)
($950)
+6.05%
+$3,950
+9.39%
+$5,950
+18.6%
+$19,300
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8
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.12
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
1.04
Sharpe ratio
62.18%
% Profitable
1+ year
Strategy age
644.76
0.650
Average Leverage
17.5 days
Trade Speed
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(20.3%)
Maximum drawdown
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+18.6%
Annual Returnsince Dec 06, 2023 |
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SPDR![]()
Manager:
DavidOwen2
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$50/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+1.53%
+$1,590
+3.37%
+$3,430
+6.02%
+$5,950
+10.0%
+$17,200
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
3.34
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.61
Sharpe ratio
85.38%
% Profitable
1+ year
Strategy age
624.69
0.408
Average Leverage
6.5 days
Trade Speed
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(4.7%)
Maximum drawdown
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+10.0%
Annual Returnsince Dec 26, 2023 |
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Strategy 27![]()
Manager:
ParnaliaEquitiesLLC
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$99/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+8.13%
+$9,050
+19.98%
+$20,000
+17.00%
+$17,400
+36.3%
+$70,500
|
27
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.48
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.88
Sharpe ratio
56.06%
% Profitable
2 years
Strategy age
988.75
1.102
Average Leverage
6.1 months
Trade Speed
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(44.7%)
Maximum drawdown
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+36.3%
Annual Returnsince Dec 27, 2022 |
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BOOST 2![]()
Manager:
AdiPlaut
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$0/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+5.15%
+$1,520
+14.94%
+$4,020
+18.31%
+$4,790
+44.7%
+$11,300
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14
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.78
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.12
Sharpe ratio
38.29%
% Profitable
1 year
Strategy age
443.25
0.909
Average Leverage
35.1 days
Trade Speed
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(33.5%)
Maximum drawdown
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+44.7%
Annual Returnsince Jun 25, 2024 |
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Easiest to Follow![]()
Manager:
PatienceToInvest_com
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$59/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+2.90%
+$1,710
+11.35%
+$6,150
+8.43%
+$4,680
+34.3%
+$32,400
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17
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.16
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.10
Sharpe ratio
43.51%
% Profitable
2 years
Strategy age
898.93
0.942
Average Leverage
23.4 days
Trade Speed
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(32.2%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+34.3%
Annual Returnsince Mar 27, 2023 |
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WavePivot![]()
Manager:
QUANTICK
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$99/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+9.90%
+$9,900
-
$0
-
$0
+9.2%
+$10,000
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.89
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
1.19
Sharpe ratio
50.00%
% Profitable
5 months
Strategy age
154.13
5.541
Average Leverage
5.1 days
Trade Speed
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(8.8%)
Maximum drawdown
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+9.2%
Cumul. Returnsince Apr 10, 2025 |
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DT LS Mix![]()
Manager:
Systematic_Trader
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$249/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(4.94%)
($5,300)
(10.21%)
($11,550)
(0.94%)
($960)
+0.1%
+$2,390
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13
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.04
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
0.04
Sharpe ratio
28.57%
% Profitable
7 months
Strategy age
219.02
3.135
Average Leverage
2.0 hours
Trade Speed
|
(19.9%)
Maximum drawdown
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+0.1%
Cumul. Returnsince Feb 04, 2025 |
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Trade Ideas Algo![]()
Manager:
Arik_Sh
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$20/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+0.63%
+$60
-
$0
-
$0
+1.4%
+$250
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.47
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
56.32%
% Profitable
31 days
Strategy age
31.44
0.649
Average Leverage
7.6 hours
Trade Speed
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(2.0%)
Maximum drawdown
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+1.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 11, 2025 |
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Quantum Flow![]()
Manager:
MarcinKurzawa
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+20.10%
+$26,300
+64.04%
+$61,500
-
$0
+56.7%
+$57,000
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11
C2 Heart Attack Index
10.12
:1
W:L Ratio
$140,000
Suggested Capital
2.85
Sharpe ratio
57.14%
% Profitable
3 months
Strategy age
100.92
6.827
Average Leverage
35.9 hours
Trade Speed
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(20.3%)
Maximum drawdown
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+56.7%
Cumul. Returnsince Jun 02, 2025 |
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0DTE Magic Trend Mini![]()
Manager:
QuantX
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$125/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(0.78%)
($120)
(16.5%)
($3,100)
-
$0
+52.4%
+$6,050
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17
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.29
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
1.09
Sharpe ratio
65.67%
% Profitable
5 months
Strategy age
171.25
25.222
Average Leverage
8.1 hours
Trade Speed
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(28.2%)
Maximum drawdown
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+52.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Mar 24, 2025 |
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Data Analytics Futures![]()
Manager:
JourneyInvesting
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$150/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+8.38%
+$450
+15.88%
+$750
(44.13%)
($3,980)
+51.8%
+$3,130
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27
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.18
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
0.92
Sharpe ratio
51.38%
% Profitable
8 months
Strategy age
272.78
12.003
Average Leverage
2.1 hours
Trade Speed
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(74.3%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+51.8%
Cumul. Returnsince Dec 12, 2024 |
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Inspire![]()
Manager:
AlphaEdge
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$299/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+7.3%
+$7,600
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.95
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
61.54%
% Profitable
23 days
Strategy age
23.87
0.894
Average Leverage
18.4 days
Trade Speed
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(4.6%)
Maximum drawdown
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+7.3%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 18, 2025 |
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Rendimax![]()
Manager:
PaoloCamilli
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+5.53%
+$2,910
-
$0
-
$0
+10.3%
+$5,550
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
4.09
:1
W:L Ratio
$5,000
Suggested Capital
2.94
Sharpe ratio
59.09%
% Profitable
2 months
Strategy age
63.75
1.711
Average Leverage
9.5 days
Trade Speed
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(6.2%)
Maximum drawdown
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+10.3%
Cumul. Returnsince Jul 09, 2025 |
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Safe Leverage Bets![]()
Manager:
Predictable
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$99/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(1.38%)
($180)
(9.32%)
($1,270)
(8.07%)
($1,060)
+14.8%
+$2,550
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.28
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
0.95
Sharpe ratio
47.03%
% Profitable
7 months
Strategy age
217.69
10.287
Average Leverage
46.217 mins
Trade Speed
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(16.9%)
Maximum drawdown
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+14.8%
Cumul. Returnsince Feb 05, 2025 |
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Strangle King![]()
Manager:
Brambo
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$75/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+11.37%
+$7,150
+40.00%
+$20,000
-
$0
+47.0%
+$20,200
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3
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.41
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
2.88
Sharpe ratio
65.73%
% Profitable
3 months
Strategy age
92.82
2.079
Average Leverage
8.0 days
Trade Speed
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(11.2%)
Maximum drawdown
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+47.0%
Cumul. Returnsince Jun 10, 2025 |
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Avata![]()
Manager:
AlphaEdge
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$199/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+2.5%
+$1,480
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
3.35
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
52.38%
% Profitable
23 days
Strategy age
23.07
0.489
Average Leverage
20.8 days
Trade Speed
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(1.3%)
Maximum drawdown
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+2.5%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 19, 2025 |
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MarketMindsBeatSPX![]()
Manager:
PAFI
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+3.38%
+$3,650
+10.72%
+$10,800
+18.37%
+$17,300
+10.8%
+$11,800
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6
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.41
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.79
Sharpe ratio
78.95%
% Profitable
6 months
Strategy age
202.49
0.894
Average Leverage
58.6 days
Trade Speed
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(21.3%)
Maximum drawdown
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+10.8%
Cumul. Returnsince Feb 20, 2025 |
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BOOST 4![]()
Manager:
AdiPlaut
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+6.7%
+$4,320
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
3.29
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
62.50%
% Profitable
28 days
Strategy age
28.96
1.104
Average Leverage
9.0 days
Trade Speed
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(2.9%)
Maximum drawdown
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+6.7%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 13, 2025 |
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PaceSetter![]()
Manager:
NexusWealthSystems
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$50/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+0.39%
+$30
+10.31%
+$820
+12.69%
+$970
+7.3%
+$1,390
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10
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.38
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.41
Sharpe ratio
50.00%
% Profitable
9 months
Strategy age
300.97
0.996
Average Leverage
3.9 months
Trade Speed
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(17.9%)
Maximum drawdown
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+7.3%
Cumul. Returnsince Nov 14, 2024 |
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Micro ES Pro![]()
Manager:
GSPTrader
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$250/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(3.52%)
($970)
-
$0
-
$0
+4.2%
+$1,910
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C2 Heart Attack Index
1.59
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
1.57
Sharpe ratio
59.46%
% Profitable
2 months
Strategy age
80.09
3.658
Average Leverage
9.4 hours
Trade Speed
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(5.5%)
Maximum drawdown
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+4.2%
Cumul. Returnsince Jun 23, 2025 |
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Big Player and Momentum![]()
Manager:
StefRuf
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$125/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+5.71%
+$2,910
+10.57%
+$5,100
+11.68%
+$5,550
+4.9%
+$3,880
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.63
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.63
Sharpe ratio
56.86%
% Profitable
8 months
Strategy age
247.00
0.651
Average Leverage
49.3 days
Trade Speed
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(12.4%)
Maximum drawdown
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+4.9%
Cumul. Returnsince Jan 07, 2025 |
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US Long Short Equity![]()
Manager:
MjoelnerCapital
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(0.83%)
($940)
+6.69%
+$7,050
-
$0
+11.9%
+$12,600
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.56
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
2.95
Sharpe ratio
52.99%
% Profitable
4 months
Strategy age
127.30
1.682
Average Leverage
31.2 days
Trade Speed
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(4.6%)
Maximum drawdown
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+11.9%
Cumul. Returnsince May 07, 2025 |
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Hydra Options Spreads![]()
Manager:
TheFinancialCloud
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$150/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+2.09%
+$1,140
+5.82%
+$3,060
+10.16%
+$5,100
+12.7%
+$6,100
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.27
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.23
Sharpe ratio
54.43%
% Profitable
6 months
Strategy age
192.85
4.711
Average Leverage
10.4 days
Trade Speed
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(8.9%)
Maximum drawdown
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+12.7%
Cumul. Returnsince Mar 02, 2025 |
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Equity Empire Options![]()
Manager:
SPRF
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
+48.79%
+$3,690
+31.4%
+$3,840
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C2 Heart Attack Index
2.02
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
0.75
Sharpe ratio
67.39%
% Profitable
9 months
Strategy age
275.45
4.308
Average Leverage
13.3 days
Trade Speed
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(32.4%)
Maximum drawdown
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+31.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Dec 10, 2024 |
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HackingTheDax![]()
Manager:
HacktheMarket
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$25/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+2.0%
+$570
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.52
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
50.00%
% Profitable
28 days
Strategy age
28.11
5.420
Average Leverage
4.2 hours
Trade Speed
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(4.4%)
Maximum drawdown
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+2.0%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 14, 2025 |
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MarketMinds FnO![]()
Manager:
PAFI
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$149/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+8.00%
+$8,200
-
$0
-
$0
+10.2%
+$10,800
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1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.95
:1
W:L Ratio
$60,000
Suggested Capital
1.74
Sharpe ratio
74.31%
% Profitable
2 months
Strategy age
78.82
1.281
Average Leverage
14.9 days
Trade Speed
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(8.1%)
Maximum drawdown
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+10.2%
Cumul. Returnsince Jun 24, 2025 |
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3ple Lever![]()
Manager:
JCLever
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+1.07%
+$380
+9.48%
+$3,080
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$0
+16.7%
+$5,800
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C2 Heart Attack Index
2.52
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
3.11
Sharpe ratio
60.78%
% Profitable
5 months
Strategy age
162.90
1.378
Average Leverage
21.9 hours
Trade Speed
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(5.1%)
Maximum drawdown
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+16.7%
Cumul. Returnsince Apr 01, 2025 |
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COMM 3F RTM![]()
Manager:
LeslieGray
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$75/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(2.81%)
($3,220)
(5.2%)
($6,110)
+7.71%
+$7,950
+10.8%
+$11,600
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11
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.69
:1
W:L Ratio
$80,000
Suggested Capital
0.98
Sharpe ratio
56.41%
% Profitable
7 months
Strategy age
227.99
1.006
Average Leverage
17.1 days
Trade Speed
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(17.2%)
Maximum drawdown
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+10.8%
Cumul. Returnsince Jan 26, 2025 |
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ZEN1 ES![]()
Manager:
Zen
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$100/month Subscription fee |
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New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(1.62%)
($500)
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$0
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$0
+0.4%
+$400
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3
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.09
:1
W:L Ratio
$30,000
Suggested Capital
36.96%
% Profitable
31 days
Strategy age
31.98
8.675
Average Leverage
77.050 mins
Trade Speed
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(10.2%)
Maximum drawdown
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+0.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 10, 2025 |
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All results are hypothetical data. Learn what this means. Remember: trading is risky. You can lose money.
About these results
About the results you see on this Web site
Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results.
These results are based on simulated or hypothetical performance results. Hypothetical performance results have many inherent limitations, some of which are described below. No representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particular trading program.
One of the limitations of hypothetical performance results is that they are generally prepared with the benefit of hindsight. In addition, hypothetical trading does not involve financial risk, and no hypothetical trading record can completely account for the impact of financial risk in actual trading. For example, the ability to withstand losses or to adhere to a particular trading program in spite of trading losses are material points which can also adversely affect actual trading results. There are numerous other factors related to the markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program which cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results.
You may be interested to learn more technical details about how Collective2 calculates the hypothetical results you see on this web site.
Material assumptions and methods used when calculating results
The following are material assumptions used when calculating any hypothetical monthly results that appear on our web site.
- Profits are reinvested. We assume profits (when there are profits) are reinvested in the trading strategy.
- Starting investment size. For any trading strategy on our site, hypothetical results are based on the assumption that you invested the starting amount shown on the strategy's performance chart. In some cases, nominal dollar amounts on the equity chart have been re-scaled downward to make current go-forward trading sizes more manageable. In these cases, it may not have been possible to trade the strategy historically at the equity levels shown on the chart, and a higher minimum capital was required in the past.
- All fees are included. When calculating cumulative returns, we try to estimate and include all the fees a typical trader incurs when AutoTrading using AutoTrade technology. This includes the subscription cost of the strategy, plus any per-trade AutoTrade fees, plus estimated broker commissions if any.
- "Max Drawdown" Calculation Method. We calculate the Max Drawdown statistic as follows. Our computer software looks at the equity chart of the system in question and finds the largest percentage amount that the equity chart ever declines from a local "peak" to a subsequent point in time (thus this is formally called "Maximum Peak to Valley Drawdown.") While this is useful information when evaluating trading systems, you should keep in mind that past performance does not guarantee future results. Therefore, future drawdowns may be larger than the historical maximum drawdowns you see here.
Trading is risky
There is a substantial risk of loss in futures and forex trading. Online trading of stocks and options is extremely risky. Assume you will lose money. Don't trade with money you cannot afford to lose.
Suggested Minimum Capital
This is our estimate of the minimum amount of capital to follow a strategy, assuming you use the smallest reasonable AutoTrade Scaling % for the strategy.
Trade Speed
Technically, this is actually the average trade duration. When positions are legged-in and legged-out (i.e. incrementally or partially opened or closed) we measure the time from first being flat to ultimately being flat again for the instrument in question.
About C2Star Certification
This is our estimate of the minimum amount of capital to follow a strategy, assuming you use the smallest reasonable AutoTrade Scaling % for the strategy.